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    Racheal - Green Mop

    Great blog article Julie. I agree with the importance you place on doing business in an ethical way. I wouldn't want to do business any other way. It sometimes makes it tough as commercial cleaning is a competitive market. However I believe there is added value in having a fairly paid, motivated team instead of workers on minimum wage.

    Julie Stanford

    Thanks Racheal... and thanks for taking the time to comment, too. I feel very strongly about this but as you say, it does makes things harder. Particularly when the message coming from certain media is that you're a business wimp if you don't just push for profit!

    Marianne Whitfield

    Hilary's right that business is about making money and being profitable but, unless you are beholden to the wants of your investors, you should be in a position to decide the level of profitability you feel is right for your business.

    Maybe it's time for the programme makers to come up with a more 'ethical' version of Dragon's Den ...

    Julie Stanford

    Good point, Marianne. And that's the joy of running our own businesses. We get to decide what's right for us. I actually added a footnote on the blog saying that it's great to be working with 4th edition partners whose ethics more closely match our own, but I thought you'd blush!

    Andrew Nash

    Hi Julie,

    That's an interesting subject you've raised, which while I think the Dragon's response is somewhat blunt, we can not become so insular as to not engage in global trade.

    It would be "unethical" not to trade with other countries, support local economies and provide people around the world with jobs.

    The importance of being ethical, is not so much about looking after our own, as looking after the global workforce, particularly in developing countries such as India and China, where the challenge is ensuring a fair local wage, living conditions, hours worked, health & safety, education etc.

    Every situation is of course different and needs evaluating on its own merits, the fact you support the local British Print Industry and maybe make a smaller profit is commendable, but the print industry must realise it is in a global market. It must find it's comeptitive edge on service, quality, lead time etc.. Your choice might be "support British" but I'm sure the decision is also supported by great customer service and flexible lead times, which actually help you make the decision to pay a little more.

    My industry sources much through India & China, our focus is to use well established suppliers, with people on the ground and who sign up to our Ethical Charter.

    What will I always do? In Business - The very best I can for my customer.

    What will I never do? Meet the needs of my customer at the expense of another i.e. member of my staff or employee within the supply chain.

    Claire Boyles

    it's an interesting discussion, and as I was reading I was agreeing with your view point, except I was thinking what about those entrepreneurs starting off, the ones that just can't afford to reduce their profit because they're still establishing themselves, still, in some cases struggling to pay the household bills because they've invested everything into their business.

    It reminds me also of Neil Crofts book- Authentic Business, which I loved & highly recommend to anyone starting out. You can get it on Amazon her: http://amzn.to/rdRnuw

    Claire Boyles

    I love Hilary's idea of an "ethical"/Green Dragons Den, although not sure that would be quite as good Tv for the ratings.

    I've loved watching Dragon's Den over the years, it has certainly taught me a thing or two about business and pitching for investment!

    Julie Stanford

    Andrew and Claire, thanks for taking the time to comment. I'm thinking that I've perhaps mixed up two elements in this blog: the 'buy local' question and one's own business ethics. Both aspects just happen to be included, because it was Hilary's comment that made me think about this.

    I'm not suggesting in the blog that we should only source locally, I think it was more about the importance of taking everything into consideration when making your business decisions. In my case, I reached my own 'this far and no further' place. But you're right, Andrew, competition is part of business. However, it's difficult to compete if the playing field isn't level, as in the case of cheap wages/poor living conditions making it possible for some manufacturers to charge lower prices.

    Claire, you're spot on about Neil Crofts' book (and his blog); he's been an expert in our Essential Business Guide since our 2nd edition, because of that very book.

    Andrew Nash

    Regarding Claire's comment on those new entrepreneurs starting out...

    If needs be they CAN make less profit on a job as they will have far less overhead than established business... I started in a back bedroom on my own, I now pay rent, rates, 7 staff etc.. before I get to think about my mortgage!

    Further to anyone starting out, what really helps get a business off the ground is networking - leading to help, advice, friendships, leads & opportunities.

    Being new & small the typical USP is great service through flexibility....

    All that all comes from working with suppliers from the local business community, and not using the cheapest in some far off land.

    The new entrepreneur needs to focus on sales & customer service, an awful lot of time, goodwill and cash flow can be lost searching for the best prices, globally, via the internet.

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